Author: CantBarsed Blog

  • The CantBarsed Blog is moving…

    I’m in the process of moving the CantBarsed blog from http://www.cantbarsed.com/blog to https://blog.cantbarsed.com so I can use the new blogger.com template features to give the blog a makeover.
    I suspect it won’t be seamless and it could well be messy or unavailable in the short term but it should be worthwhile – I’ll be back!

    Update 2017

    The CantBarsed.com blog has been moved again – on the same URL this time but quite a few URLs had to be redirected, apologies for any 404s you encounter along the way, I’ll patch them up as they pop-up.

  • iPhone 3G brilliant & iPhone iOS 2.0 Software & MobileMe Inspirational!

    I’ve just watched Steve Jobs presentation to the WWDC and while I’m really excited about the new iPhone what I’m most looking forward to is the free forthcoming iPhone 2.0 software update and MobileMe (a revamped .mac service) which together will make a big difference to the way I work as an affiliate on a daily basis.

    MobileMe is described as the “cloud in the sky” which synchronises data between your all your desktop and mobile devices in near-real time over the air (3G, 2G or WiFi).

    This is perfect for affiliate marketeers. For example I’ll be able to read and reply to an email on my iPhone and both my desktop computer and laptop will know I’ve already read and dealt with that email so I won’t have to read it again or mark it as read on my other machines.
    I’ll also have access to all my contacts and spreadsheets anywhere and any changes made will be updated on my other devices seamlessly – no more multiple, but different, copies of the same documents on different machines.
    I think I’ll be able to do the same with Dreamweaver web pages but putting the pages live will still be a separate task, I look forward to having a play to see what’s possible and what’s practical.

    This time around Apple have made a huge effort to get the business world on-board. A whole bunch of Fortune 500 companies were signed up to the beta program and with full support for Microsoft Exchange, Cisco and the ability to open Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents in place demand is going to go through the roof.

    Add July 11th 2008 To Your Diary

    That’s the day the iPhone 3G goes on sale in Apple and O2 stores across the UK and it looks like they’re NOT going to be available online (as an Apple affiliate that’s REALLY bad news) and can only be activated in-store. I’m not happy about having to queue up and activate in-store but from O2’s POV it makes perfect sense because it will reduce iPhone hacking/unlocking (again this is bad news for O2/CPW affiliates).
    At an estimated 12 minutes per customer there’s going to be some long queues outside stores which means lots of media coverage.
    I can’t decide whether to play their game or wait and play with the iPhone 2.0 software on my existing iPhone and run the risk of the iPhone 3G going out of stock, especially because at a price point equivalent to $199 they are going to fly off the shelves (although I want the more expensive 16Gb white model), decisions, decisions.

    More Apple News

    Last July I blogged about how iTunes was the Trojan horse which lets Apple loose on Windows machines and alongside a new Apps Store you’ll also be able to install iPhone apps from iTunes and I’m looking forward to seeing how MyMobile interacts with Apple TV, where you can now rent and buy movies along with popular TV shows. It’s all coming together rather nicely now isn’t it?

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  • CantBarsed Blog – A4U Awards 2008 Excel London

    Well I didn’t win anything – which wasn’t a surprise since I wasn’t nominated but I still managed to get nervous for 2 award nominees I felt quite strongly about.
    Happily Julie Wood romped home (judging by the cheers) as the Publisher’s Choice Of Account Manager and Kirsty McCubbin just missed out to Kieron for the Affiliate Marketing Blog of 2008. As I was waiting on the balcony alongside Kieron I reminded him I’d voted for Kirsty and he agreed she would be a worthy winner so I was delighted when he told me after collecting his trophy that he intended to give the sunshine.co.uk holiday vouchers to Kirsty and Duncan could so they could have a mini holiday after their wedding and before the A4U Expo.

    Of the 14 other awards I correctly guessed 7 and was only left scratching my head over a few.
    I expected sunshine.co.uk to pick up an award but Chris Clarkson picking up the Affiliate Manager of 2008 is a real achievement up against old hands like Zak and Graham.
    Virgin Games winning the Gaming vertical award ahead of Jackpotjoy was odd. They’d been squeezed onto Kieron’s “affiliate only” table and disappeared downstairs just before the award was announced so I’m guessing they only attended at the last minute and knew in advance they’d won the award – which is better than not attending and filming a cheesy video – probably! I wasn’t even aware there was an independent Virgin Games affiliate program so I’m guessing they actively canvassed for votes which feels wrong to me but it’s within the rules and even actively encouraged but I still don’t like it. OTOH the Virgin Media guys sat either side of me and Deb at lunch and they were both really nice and we drank a glass or two of their celebratory Champagne so I’ve no cause for complaint – I bet Jackpotjoy Jasper and Claire will be canvassing for votes next year!

    As An ‘umble Affiliate Plus 1 Missus Was A4U Worth Attending?

    The comedian Michael McIntyre made my face ache with laughter which partially numbed the pain of spending around £600 all in including tickets, hotel, breakfast, trains and taxis to eat and see a few mates pick up awards. From a business perspective I wouldn’t get it past my expenses manager (happily I don’t have one) and the A4U expo is a much better opportunity for networking. OTOH as a glitzy event to take the missus along too and spend some company money it was just about worth it but I probably won’t attend next year unless it comes immediately before or after the A4U expo so I don’t have to make an extra journey and hotel booking.
    It’s also always good to spend time in the company of Elaine and Dave, Kieron, Frostie and others. I also learnt Redcar is up north, oxygen can be flavoured and that I can drink a lot of Champagne, to date, I haven’t been able to afford to find my limit.
    I didn’t give a toss about the involvement of the IAB at the awards – it’s been largely irrelevant to my affiliate life and similarly I don’t understand why people seemed pleased NMA wanted to be involved. As a magazine about new media they’d be stupid to ignore a sparkly event tailor made to fill column inches – maybe they were pleased NMA isn’t as stupid as they thought it was.

    A4U Congratulations

    Once again Zak from Prezzybox and Graham and Dan from Buyagift pick up awards and it was really good to catch up with Julian from IWOOT and talk seafood again. It’s also always good to put names to faces of all the other merchants and affiliate managers I chat with by email, telephone and MSN on a daily basis and best of all it was great to celebrate Julie’s win at our own mini after-after show party with Nadeem, Martin and Carl from the A4U forum.
    As usual there were loads of people I didn’t get around to chatting with but, thanks to Matt and the Existem gang, the A4U Expo is just a few months away so we can all catch up again there.

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  • Karma Chameleon – The Times They Are A Changing

    Our recent 25th Wedding Anniversary party and my 50th Birthday seemed blogworthy enough milestones so here I am again.

    We don’t throw many parties because we’re not fans of the traditional village hall format and the prospect of having our house trashed becomes ever-less tempting. I was explaining this to my friend Chris and we ended up talking about Packing Shed Island, which sits just above high tide off the coast of Mersea Island in the Blackwater River estuary, and we both agreed it would make a great alternative party venue so a few phone calls later the shed was booked for our anniversary party.

    Booking the shed really was the easy part because everything from people to toilet rolls has to travel by boat to the island, and back again, which adds an extra dimension to even the simplest tasks with plenty of scope to FUBAR!

    Parties need music so I spent a long time going through my iTunes collection picking must-have tracks from each decade and ended up with enough music to put on a music festival rather than a party!

    I always enjoy browsing the pictures people traditionally put on the wall at parties but getting those mounted up and onto the island was never a practical proposition so I decided to put together a noughties style slide show using my Apple TV and an LCD projector. I generally hate scanning photos but it was therapeutic scanning pictures and amazing to see small snapshots spring to life on a much larger screen. The slideshow seemed popular so I’ve uploaded the lot to my .mac web gallery for anyone who missed it or wants copies of the photos you can grab them yourselves.

    It’s great to get presents but there’s really nothing we need so we’d decided to organise a charity raffle and thanks to the generosity of our sponsors (especially IWantOneOfThose.com and Buyagift) and all our party guests we raised exactly £500 for our favourite charities.

    From our perspective the party went really well. The island mentality led to us over-ordering food and we even had some alcohol left which is more a case of us getting old rather than over-ordering I think. Apologies to anyone I didn’t get around to chatting with, that’s always the problem with parties, but everyone had a smile on their face in the photos and they’re also available online here or on the Facebook event page.

    So fifty is bloody old, especially when I grew up in the cold war and remember being told the world might end today at infant school, so I’ve been counting my blessings ever since. We can’t help growing old but we don’t have to grow up and figuring out what’s important is more important than learning stuff and milestones like anniversaries and birthdays make me maudlin and reflective – please feel free to skip my self-indulgence.

    I’ve been practicing Taoist Tai-Chi for over four years now and although the gentle body changing exercises have undoubtedly improved my physical health it’s the taoist aspect which has been the key to becoming more comfortable with myself so here’s what I think I’ve learned so far:

    * Don’t judge people too harshly. Most people are lovely, mostly harmless and often ineffectual but lovely nevertheless and the more people you meet and friends you make the more lovely experiences you will have in this life, it’s simple probability in action so just do it.

    * Do something outside your comfort zone every day. Say YES when you’re screaming NOOOOOOOO on the inside and see what happens – it almost always turns out OK. I’m really uncomfortable at the thought of public speaking but it gets a little easier each time.

    * Break your habits and embrace change. Challenge yourself, stop drinking tea or start drinking coffee – it really doesn’t matter, changing your behavior is the key because it challenges your self-image and ultimately how others perceive you. Be open to new ideas and experiences, life inexorably narrows our potential so don’t make it any easier.

    * Be useful and be generous. From personal experience I know the law of karma works. Often being generous is useful too so it’s already karma payback, did you see the movie Pay It Forward?

    Finally, and on a lighter note, I’m reminded of this essential tidbit for men of a certain age: If you have the opportunity to go to the toilet, take it – and if you’re lucky enough to get an erection use it!

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  • Whistler, IWOOT, Curly Wurlys & Jet Lag

    I’m not a fan of February(ies) in the UK so the idea of stomping my carbon footprint across Canada was appealing – especially when the entire trip was organised and paid for by IWantOneOfThose.com – the worlds favourite gadget site.
    We flew with British Airways, the worlds favourite airline, that cancelled our flight because the pilot was “ill” – I still can’t believe that excuse, the more I think about it the more pathetic it sounds. Do BA really not have a single backup crew?

    The upside was a stopover in Toronto on route to Vancouver and Whistler mountain where the original plan was for a gang of affiliates to go boarding.

    Instead we went up the Canada National Tower in Toronto, drank large quantities of beer and cocktails, with some serious eye contact, ate Twirly Wurlies and got into an outrageous pillow fight at a swinging party – I’d like to tell you more but fight club rules apply on holiday so I’ll just talk about me and skiing.

    Learning to ski is easy enough but convincing your brain to let your body slide down a slippery slope with minimal control is a LOT harder – at least until the Adrenalin rush kicks in and you’re back on the chair lift for another run.

    Harvey, my ski-lesson buddy, was fearless but clearly his brain doesn’t work because he lost his ski poles, his lift pass, his googles and then ME up the mountain!

    Everyone who knows anything about skiing says Whistler is THE place to visit but without anything to compare it with all I can do is agree with the instructors who reckon it’s awesome dude, mental even and it certainly got under my skin in more ways than one.

    I always suffer jet lag returning from America and it takes me well over a week to get back to normal so here I am wide awake at 2am yet hardly able to stay awake during the day – of course I’d love to do it all over again and to Paul, Julian, Julie, Ian, Jamie and Harvey I’d like to say thanks very much for your company.

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  • Valentines Day Messages – Will You Marry Me?

    It’s that time of year again and we’re publishing Valentines Day Messages on CantBarsed, anonymously if you prefer, so you can share a little love, or start some rumours around the office.
    This is the third year we’ve run this online event and we’ve just had our first marriage proposal – How cool is that? It’s also a leap year so look out guys, the tables have been turned!
    Every message is also entered into a Free Competition to Win 1 of 5 Valentines Romance Calendars kindly sponsored by Prezzybox who deserve a mention because they’ve sponsored the event every year.
    The closing date for entries is midnight 14th February 2007

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  • Code Sites – Reasons To Be Cheerful?

    Back when we started publishing promotional codes on CantBarsed.com there really weren’t any dedicated code sites and we enjoyed top positions on Google, MSN and Yahoo for several years for most of the popular keywords. Happy days indeed but back then the general awareness of promotional codes was really low so those keywords were nowhere near as lucrative then as they would be now. However we did offer early internet shoppers a way of getting deals online they couldn’t get by visiting participating stores directly and everyone was happy.

    As awareness of promotional codes increased and we saw the launch, and increasing popularity, of dedicated code sites it became confusing for visitors to CantBarsed.com to find our promotional codes mixed in with our content and our stats showed a marked decrease in visitors so we bought DiscountCodes.tv and worked really hard to build the site database with daily updates so now by cross-linking the two sites we can offer our visitors the best of both worlds.

    Code sites have recently come in for a LOT of criticism, some justified and some unjustified accompanied by bandwagon jumping, petty sniping, jealousy, back-stabbing and, worst of all, in-fighting and slanging matches between code sites owners which isn’t good for anyone. However the glare of publicity has resulted in closer scrutiny of the way code sites work and has resulted in some positive developments.

    To anyone thinking of launching a code site I would remind them about all the other seemingly easy ways to make money which turned out to be a lot harder than they first appeared. For example, how many decent cashback sites are there left? What happened to all the datafeed driven websites after google wised up to them? How many independent and useful broadband and utility switching sites have you visited lately (and how on earth do those comparison sites advertising on TV make any money?). I could go on.

    Back in the real world producing a functional code site is just the first (and I would say easiest step) of a HUGE undertaking. To properly maintain a code site people will want to re-visit you’ll need to commit to learning everything there is to know about the UK online shopping scene and endless late nights!

    This means signing up to every retail program and reading hundreds of merchant emails daily, investigating what each new merchant has to offer, removing stores which go bust or close their affiliate programs at a moments notice and that can be a full time job even before you add a single code.

    Then there’s the codes. Some last ages, some last hours. No sooner have you added a code you have to remove it. Some codes just don’t work and others can’t work because your site design didn’t allow for every permutation. Some codes can be published, some cannot, some can be used by you and no-one else, some can be used by all affiliates, some can only be used my the recipients and others can only be used by groups like NHS employees and YOU have to decide this for each and every code you publish.

    Of course you can look at other code sites (I do and I know we all do) and if they have a code I don’t I’ll go after the merchant, agency, networks for a similar code. However there’s also a really uncomfortable balance to be struck between offering what your visitors want (ALL available codes) and what you can publish (NOT all the available codes) and it’s very frustrating to be sitting on literally hundreds of codes we are clearly NOT allowed to publish and other codes which fall into a grey area.

    In fact you’ll soon discover there’s more than one grey area! There are merchants that are completely paranoid about codes and/or code sites, merchants that still haven’t heard of codes, merchants that don’t handle codes well and just a few switched-on merchants and agencies which really get it.

    I’d like to think I’ve made a positive contribution towards helping merchants understand discount codes and maximise this valuable marketing resource and further our aim to build long-lasting mutually profitable relationships with merchants.

    Don’t expect everything to run smoothly when visitors hit your shiny new code site. If your site can be broken it will be broken. If anything can be misinterpreted it will be misinterpreted and your mailbox will fill up – and it won’t be with thanks and praise, remember the buck stops with you!

    It’s tempting to cut corners and steal content from other code websites, but anyone doing so will soon be found out. At the last A4U Expo a bunch of code site owners shared a beer and discussed the issues between ourselves and with a couple of enlightened UK networks (Paid on Results and Webgains) and we (the aforementioned bunch of code site owners) are working together to resolve the problems which have been thrown into sharp focus as code sites hit the headlines for both the right and wrong reasons recently.

    There will be some self-regulation and there will be some rules that have to followed and although, in my opinion, these can only ever be a work in progress given the diverse nature of discount codes, it’s a lot better than nothing.

    Just like any other niche code sites appear, stagnate and disappear and just like any other niche a few sites eventually attract the lions share of the visitors. It’s usually the sites which offer unique content and/or unique features that emerge with the visitors and they deserve their success OR sites which break all the rules and get away with it until at some point the rules change and their model no longer works. For the record, we’re striving to be one of the good guys by creating a great site visitors want to revisit that doesn’t step on too many toes.

    I’m frustrated by the negativity surrounding code sites and frustrated being lumped together with a few rogue discount code sites. We’ve worked really hard to ensure DiscountCodes.tv offers our visitors unique content and exclusive codes. We’ve always worked within network rules and merchant terms and conditions (even when they are added retrospectively) and that’s no different to affiliate marketing in any other niche.

    Putting my thoughts about discount code sites into words has been a kind of therapy and we’re already into rehab as an inexorable process of closer co-operation with the networks has begun so I look forward to a time when we’re released back into the community and code sites are no longer newsworthy and the next bandwagon rolls into Dodge.

  • My Head Is Going To Explode

    So Christmas was good and Happy New Year to you all while I’m in here struggling with the pixelmajigs. The weather is much like my runny nose and I’m not sleeping very well with so so many ideas buzzing around I think my head is going to explode.

    The nub of my problem is the everyday mundane tasks that get in the way of my insatiable appetite to do something new – anything new! I’m not talking big ideas or ground breaking concepts here – some new or rediscovered music to listen to ((listening to Daft Punk at max volume right now), tinkering with my iPhones (Oh yeah! I won one of those legitimately UNLOCKED euro iPhones in a competition run by RedSave.com – how cool is that? – and I plan to hack it and write about it here – erm… soon) – so pretty much ANYTHING other than what I HAVE to do to keep our websites ticking along is what my body WANTS to do.

    The end result is I always feel that whatever I am doing right now I should be doing something else so my blog posts are sporadic and rambling at best and I have so much unfinished business kicking around but when you look after a website called CantBarsed.com you can get away with it – up to a point.

    With my sensible shoes on link building is one of those jobs I can’t imagine anyone enjoys but, when done right, it can also be one of the most productive too. I’ve only ever been interested in linking in context with plain text links so don’t bother offering me your link pages, but anything else is welcome. You can email me or get me on MSN via joe at cantBarsed.com and show me your wares. One upside has been some great chats with other webmasters and that’s given me even more ideas – doh!

    Sales are still going in the right direction and, inspired by several other affiliates publishing their stats, my snippet is total sales approaching… £5 million during 2007.

    As others have pointed out there is also an unwelcome downward trend in commissions combined with an increase in advertising costs so it’s certainly not getting any easier, especially for new affiliates. This can’t be good for the industry in general and next time I’m in a bad mood I’ll be dumping merchants with low or zero commissions which are unacceptable.

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  • My iPhone Story – MyPhone Story So Far

    It’s no secret I’m an “Apple fan boy” and I’ve been waiting to order a proper UK iPhone since playing with one in the Apple Store in Florida over the summer.

    The only decision to be made was whether to drive into town on a dark cold winter evening to buy from my local O2 store or buy from Apple online and wait a few days for delivery. No contest!
    So on Friday 9th November at 6.02pm and a few seconds I logged on to Apple’s site half expecting the site to be broken but everything worked fine and a few minutes later my iPhone was ordered.
    The iPhone arrived, as promised, the following Tuesday and I had my own sad unboxing and picture taking ceremony.

    Apple packaging is always gorgeous and I can never bring myself to throw it away so everything ends up in the loft and I’m going to have to buy a bigger house or start a museum eventually!

    I lost my previous Sony Ericsson mobile at the Latitude festival in the summer and replaced it with a Nokia N95 switching to the O2 network because I knew O2 had won the exclusive UK iPhone contract. The Nokia N95 is a nice phone, I liked the GPS feature but I couldn’t surf websites reliably on it and the camera combined with my photographic abilities were both disappointing.

    As an existing O2 customer (if you want to keep your number and existing contract) activation is different so I’ve put together an O2 step by step activation series of screenshots for anyone who wants to see exactly what happens. It took around 20 minutes from start to activation but I was taking screenshots along the way so that’s a worst case scenario and it was relatively straightforward but dull.

    If you’ve ordered an iPhone and you’re waiting for it to arrive read my iPhone setup Guide and when your iPhone arrives you’ll be ready to synchronise and play in minutes.

    I’m not going to hack my iPhone for a couple of reasons. First of all since I have an O2 contract so the phone features work(!) and secondly because Apple have agreed to open up development early next year and I can wait a few months for some “official” widgety enhancements.

    However I do hugely respect the efforts of the hacking community because I doubt Apple would have released the SDK without being pushed, it’s not in their nature.

    By belatedly following the advice in my iPhone setup guide I’ve now got all my contacts, photos, music and bookmarks neatly organised on my iPhone.

    I work mostly online so the most important iPhone feature for me is WiFi support and internet browsing. I prefer the Firefox browser but Safari is a capable and reliable alternative and now for the first time ever on a mobile device I can browse my websites and login and make urgent changes from the iPhone – that’s a huge step forwards in Joe World!

    I have literally hundreds of passwords which I need access to on a daily basis and I normally use RoboForm on PCs and 1Password on my Macs. They’re both excellent web form fillers and password managers and I recommend everyone gives one or the other program a try – especially if you’re using the same password for all your online services.

    I was scratching my head trying to figure out the best way to store all my passwords on the iPhone and was interrupted by the latest 1Password software update which now supports the iPhone – brilliant!

    1Password generates a special encrypted Safari bookmark which is synchronised to your iPhone along with your other Safari bookmarks and although it’s not automatic on the iPhone it’s the best available unless you know different?

    My friend Antonius has a hacked iPhone (it took him all weekend and the rest of family gave him a wide berth) so we met up to compare notes over a pint in the pub. The hacked interface is amazing with lots of toys to play with and I sincerely hope Apple takes a positive attitude to build a community of iPhone developers so we can all enjoy their efforts.

    Time will tell, thanks for reading, if you have any questions fire away, I’ll try to answer them…

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  • Domain Name Haggling How to (or not) Haggle

    Like many affiliates we “own” hundreds of domain names but we’re not “domainers” and I find domain name haggling entertaining for domains that I really, really want but don’t need.
    I particularly enjoyed this conversation and haven’t yet decided whether to continue the “negotiation” or not, perhaps your comments will help…

    Dear Joe,
    Thank you for contacting us about [domain.name]. The domain is priced at £5,000 or above.
    [snip]
    The price bracket indicated is based on a previous brief initial search of related websites and businesses using the term “[snip]”, statistics such as Internet Traffic and advertising revenue and takes into account previous interest and offers on the domain name as well as the value of the term as a potential brand and Internet keyword.
    We don’t keep an exact price for any of our domain names on file… [snip] …exact sale prices fluctuate over time so we research these on a case by case basis as and when required when we receive serious interest in a domain name.
    If you do think this will be of further interest given the indication above and you would like us to look into this further for you and investigate a definite current asking price, or if you have any other questions or comments please let us know.
    Best regards, ???


    Hi ???, Thanks for your reply.
    The domain has been for sale for ages (years) with no takers so I feel my £1000 offer is realistic irrespective of your estimated valuation. I don’t need it, it’s just a nicer fit for [snip]
    Our main business is affiliate marketing through other websites.
    As I stated in the initial form I have no plans to resell it for profit so you wouldn’t be missing out and £1000 has to be better than it being parked for another year.
    Regards, Joe Connor


    Sorry Joe but that’s not how it works, Regards, ???


    Hi ???,
    > Sorry Joe but that’s not how it works.
    I recently bought a domain where the initial asking price was 18k for 3.7k through Sedo so I know that’s exactly how it is.
    A domain is worth what someone will pay for it and given it’s been sat there for years unused it’s clearly not worth what you value it at.
    I’ll email you again next year 😉
    Regards, Joe


    Hi Joe,
    “Sat there for years unused”? you make it sound like an old washing machine! Like I say that is not the way it works and you clearly have no concept of my businesses model in this area, something which has nothing at all to do with whatever a bunch of jokers on Sedo may get up to.
    I am not going to enter into a debate with you on this and explain the situation because I get hundreds of people come out with similar nonsense to me every year and I never normally reply.
    But to put you straight though on this on this occasion it is suffice to say whilst your thoughts on this are a nice idea for you and your desire to try and secure this domain name; and a good attempt at an angle for you to try and bargain a lower price on it, they are fundamentally incorrect.
    An asset in this instance a domain name like this one that is firstly appreciating in value and secondly generating revenue does not fit with your description, as someone who makes money out of parked domains with advertising on them you must surely be aware of this second point. If it were like an old washing machine and becoming out of date, obsolete and depreciating and something I had to pay storage and rent on and was falling into disrepair then, yes, you may have a point, and yes I would then be wise to look at trying to secure a deal, but the situation bears no comparison to that and your reasoning is clearly flawed.
    So nice try, but regardless of your past experiences in buying domain names there is no way I will be selling this domain name for any less than the price indicated whether now or even if I still have it in 10 years time. If I were in a hurry to get rid of it and needed the money I know two places where I could sell it for more than three times your offer, immediately, today guaranteed.
    If however you are in the future in the position to make a genuinely “realistic” offer if say your business grows for example and you have more money to spend feel free to let me know.

    Best regards, ???


    So the domain probably has a true value somewhere around £3000 and I could probably get it for £5000. Domain name haggling suggestions welcomed…

    UPDATE 2017

    The domain I wanted (and would still quite like but don’t need) is still up for sale and the ownership hasn’t changed since my original 2007 post. It’s now up for sale now for £1000 🙂 I’m tempted to start the domain name haggling again but can I be arsed?

    So the domain probably has a true value somewhere around £3000 and I could probably get it for £5000. Domain name haggling suggestions welcomed…


    UPDATE 2025

    The domain I wanted and would still quite like but definitely don’t need is still up for sale but I’m not tempted to start the domain name haggling again because I definitely cantBarsed 🙂